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Nasty setup

Postby supersle » Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:05 pm

Well some of you well know what I've been up to with the car and some do not. So here is the reveal so far.

The Project: Do something that has not been done before or that "some" say cannot be done. :mrgreen:

So I added 1.8 rockers to my XP cam setup for lifts of .585/.603 respectively. In order to do this and correct for geometry I added comp cams SS 1.8 rockers that are tied together to distribute the load a bit better, 130# springs, Manley titanium retainers for more lift and lighter weight, and a custom set of pushrods made by Manton that are a 11/32" rod with .120 wall thickness and 7.15 length. I also have longer manley valves, so I had to buy the longer collars for the rockers and add in additional .100 spacer for proper geometry. This also requires having to raise the height of the valve covers by making a custom 3/8" spacer that had been done previously this past spring/early summer 09. Not doing so resulted in a lot of extra stress on the valve stem and seals as set up like ZZP recommends IMO.

During the install I also put in a EWP and am attempting a 2.6" pulley. With no other tuning I am getting a much leaner condition than previous which I assume tells me I definately have more air moving now. Its been so dang cold here I haven't had time to really tune it in, but now temps are into the mid 40s I've pulled out the tuner and begun mild AFR tuning/MAF tuning with the wideband.

Results are still pending, but the butt dyno says :Thumbs :burnout: Holy crap this thing is scarry powerful.
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Re: Nasty setup

Postby oldsman105 » Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:11 pm

:shock: 1.8s on a XP cam :run


That thing is going to Rip when its all tuned. :burnout:
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Re: Nasty setup

Postby BillBoost37 » Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:02 pm

That's even more lift than I have. Vroom vroom. I love it and haven't tuned mine either. When I do, I'm afraid that I'll leave a spot on the seat.
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Re: Nasty setup

Postby zuper8 » Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:57 pm

holy crap dude. can't wait to see how it goes.
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Re: Nasty setup

Postby wake » Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:00 pm

take a video!!!! :burnout:
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Re: Nasty setup

Postby supersle » Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:29 pm

I've been babying it pretty good. When I do hit it, there is absolutely no traction and it will just spin out all the way through 3rd :burnout: . When I get the tune in I'm going to go to the dyno and see what the curve says and set the final shift points. Should be out testing on the track within about a month or so hopefully. Hopefully the weather cooperates. I can say this though, it sounds just nasty. I am going to attempt E85 eventually. I forget to mention with the install I also changed to a set of 65# injectors so I'm all ready for it, but we don't have a station with E85 within a 100miles, so kind of hard to tune for it. :bonk:
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Re: Nasty setup

Postby BillBoost37 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:18 pm

I know the lack of traction issue. It's good and bad at the same time. Having the coils seperate in the back worked out for me. I used drag bags to keep the weight transfer down to a minimum. They helped a lot with traction.
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Re: Nasty setup

Postby supersle » Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:07 pm

BillBoost37 wrote:I know the lack of traction issue. It's good and bad at the same time. Having the coils seperate in the back worked out for me. I used drag bags to keep the weight transfer down to a minimum. They helped a lot with traction.



Have any pics of that? The 00+ platform is a bit different, but could probably be set up similar.
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Re: Nasty setup

Postby danthurs » Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:37 pm

What stall torque converter are you running? A higher stall will help with traction by adding a bit of slip until the car is moving. I put a 3000 in mine. Still slip but it grabs a lot better.
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Re: Nasty setup

Postby supersle » Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:27 pm

Running a 2750 stall. About as big as I wanted to go. I can still pull 1.84 60's with my MT drags.
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Re: Nasty setup

Postby radomirthegreat » Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:47 pm

Sub-2 second 60' times? Wow, I didn't know you had swapped over to a Series 1 engine! :Thumbs
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Re: Nasty setup

Postby BillBoost37 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:16 pm

I should be able to snap pics this weekend of them.

I went to Summit and plugged in your car and Air Lift (name of product). Here you go.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AIR-60776/

They go inside the springs and pump up. It's funny to see someone try and push down on the bumper with these installed. They show the air shocks how it should be at the track. And the price is sweet for the benefit.
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Re: Nasty setup

Postby radomirthegreat » Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:50 pm

Very interesting. How many M90s does it take to inflate an air bag inside a spring?
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Re: Nasty setup

Postby supersle » Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:15 pm

:bonk: That's what I was thinking.
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Re: Nasty setup

Postby BillBoost37 » Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:20 am

what? Jared..I know you aren't as "odd" as Radomir.. Link works fine for me.
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